Ok. just read all the things I apparently missed here.
I thought this thread has ended, was busy in real life, see this few days later and u guys filled 3 more pages xd.
Now, to add some of my own thoughts to this:
I take it serious, if someone believes that another person is hacking or breaking the rules.
But before I act upon something like this, I need a screenshot of the rule break or an explanation as to what the person has done. If someone believes another person is hacking, he should be able to tell me why he believes that. Meaning he saw soemthing strange about this person. Then I can look further into it and hopefully prove whether its true or not. But what doesnt help, is just saying a person hacks, without any details.
Also, accusing people openly isnt good. We dont prejudge people in real life either. Innocent until proven guilty. Also, slandering someone IS a bad thing, as well as instigating others. I have often enough seen people believing someone is hacking just because they heard it from others, but without any reason to why. That way, more and more people act upon a rumor, which may or may not is wrong. If its right and we prove it, ok. But if its not right and we prove it, we have someone who either hates a lot of people or even leaves the game.
Thats why I say: Report it to a mod, but dont accuse people openly.
Ofc, if u have an undeniable proof of a hack that u are able to show, the case would be different.
But thats not the case most times.
Also, those who distrust some mods, there are enough to find one you DO trust.
I can understand, that us investigating something isnt visible from the outside, but I for my part inform people about the result of the investigation, or update them if it takes longer. And please keep in mind, that we do this in our free time and sometimes have to wait for someone to be on to continue. And this obviously can result in things taking longer sometimes. Also, its not a wise idea to spread around we are investigatiing something, because that could let some culprits escape. Something no one of us wants.
So you have to differentiate stopping accusations and investigating.
Doing the first doesnt mean we arent doing the second one!
Sorry to say that, but believing someone wouldnt falsely accuse another person to get rid of them is just naive.
There will always be people who are willing to do such things. Unfortunately.
And clan punishments are a bad idea, because that would punish all innocent people in that clan too.
And that is an absolute no go.
But how many players are actualy left game or lost interest in pvp because of same hacker who camped them over and over again for like no real reason other than just to get his satisfaction.
Regarding this I can just say, that camping itself IS allowed by the devs.
If the person hacks and its proven, it will get banned.
Otherwise nothing will happen. We have PvE for a reason.
The statement here in the thread that she wants to get u banned, is no proof that she really did it in the game.
Its like claiming to hack. Anyone can claim anything, but that doesnt mean its true. We can only do something about it if there is either proof the claim is right, or that the person is trying to instigate people against someone. For which also proof would be required.
i get mutted immediately when i do even one slight swear to you and i have real reason to do that not like you who just enjoy doing that. But you get away all the time for calling me inappropriate names and what else not.
This here is just wrong. Another person breaking the rules gives u NO right to break them urself.
And ofc, if you dont report it to the mods, but the other person does, you have the mentioned result.
Side note: I removed the insult. That has no place here.
All i know player who snifs arts for fact later tells that he not only snifs but also copy or try to delete them. So i take seriously what these hackers say even if it could be just troll. And why not dealing with them in first place? If you so sure that its imposible to do what they saying and its just troll then why not mute them in first place and not players who later accuse them for hacking? Accusation is consequence not cause. Even some mod trying to make it look like some joke now.
This here too. Openly accusing someone if you already considered the possibility its just trolling, isnt right.
Report it to a mod. (As u, in case of the Art Viewing, did to me. And I looked into it and proved it with trafs help true.) Moreover, if u believe it could be trolling, then instead of accusing the person u should report it. That way the person gets punished for trolling and not u for public accusing.
And about the screens u posted:
1. Sinner reasons about the art viewing/copying. Which isnt the same as claiming to do it.
2. Obviously sinner trolling you.
3. Iirc, I acted upon the insult after u told me about it.
4. Its not that obvious, but him using the blink smile indicates, that its trolling too.
(And we have good reasons, as explained in this thread, to believe that u cant copy arts)
So, I hope we can close this discsussion and continue with the thread, if someone else has to say anything.