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#74008 by Silent__Death Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:58 pm
recently got some blob arts so many of my builds consist of 0 upgrade arts or 1 upgrade arts. Though i still haven;t managed to get correct arts for my set. I need to know what i should look for...

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-(silent death)
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#74009 by Silent__Death Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:59 pm
the rest is here
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#74011 by Silent__Death Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:35 pm
i using extra shield et level 50.
attack speed scatter shell level 100
flak shell level 1 et
rail level 1 et
flak cannon level 50 extra projectil et
hk burn et level 1
infested level 50 extra debuff et

Every death is way to loud these days.....
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#74012 by Draconis Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:38 pm
#HumbleBrag

Aside from improving the all resist to a multi line art it looks pretty much perfect to my eyes, ofc arts can always improve but that is a very solid setup. Well... maybe find a way to get some armor, since it is an hp setup. First art I would be looking to replace is the level 74 art with the kin+sh lines.

#74015 by Silent__Death Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:48 pm
You think i need to replace the shield + kin art maybe i should look for a kinetic + armor art?

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#74019 by bolbi Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:31 am
Yeah I agree with Drac it's a fairly solid setup, a little low on damage for me but I'm comparing that to a bit higher level arts. In terms of where to improve I perfer a bit higher attack speed, but that's not super necessary. I agree with what Drac said in that the all resist and the level 74 art look like they would be the first to replace, I'd also look to replace that last one (with just shield and health) with something with mainly shield but other stats as well.

In terms of what to look for and advice, remember that you only need 50% all resist for PvP purposes, anything more than that is just buffer for resist debuffs so anything over 100% is useless, for PvP, for PvE you want to have if you can 75% resists or thereabouts, most PvE enemies don't debuff resistance so you don't often worry about having a buffer or not. Back to the point, you will most likely find a good 50% all resist art with other bonuses faster than if you only shoot for 75% all resists. I also am a big fan of having like a few 10-30% all resist combo arts in reserves for switching to PvE for that extra boost to defense or for just putting 2 of them on and getting all the resist I need.

Also I'd say look for stuff with a decent amount in lines of two or more bonuses, like for me if I see something like for me if I see two or more of the following list I definitely look to see how good it actually is.
+100-300% Health/Shield
80-100% Hp to 150% Shield
60-100% Shield to Hp
+100-200% Armor
+15-40% All Resist
+20-60% Attack speed
+50-100% of one damage type

The lower numbers would be for on an art with like four other useful stats, and obviously as the number of useful lines go down the higher those numbers have to be to still be worth it. And that's just my numbers you probably will want to aim lower than that to begin with, I just thought it might be insightful to see how I look for new arts.

Other than that start farming steel to max all your ship upgrade ETs, and then to max your other weapons so you can have at least five max upgraded weapons equipped.

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#74076 by Shieldity Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:56 am
Very good setup for someone (I don't have a word except for this one) """weak""" PVPer ! :)
There are two arts I'd like to have in your set, converter with 85% instead and that kin shield.

I can post my actual kin set here too when I'll get on computer.

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#74094 by Silent__Death Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:32 pm
Well seeing your kinetic setup would be nice......
also should i look for something like

armor%
kinetic%

along with

armor %
all resist%
?

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#74095 by bolbi Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:34 pm
Either would work to replace different arts in your current setup, however I was more saying you don't want to focus to much on just those two arts. You want to be looking for any art that possibly combo well, not just the ones you need and can combo with right now.

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#74097 by Jpsi Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:45 am
Your best art is the third one, top-tier quality (attack speed/kin/max power). The rest can be replaced.

In general, quite good setup though, so congrats !

First advice: go shield setup. Without any armor line, a hp setup is weaker than a shield setup. Your shield to hp art is decent but not top tier, so replace it by your best hp to shield. Your shield art is good, but hopefully you also have something good in hp.

Mono line resist all art is quite weak, as well as your kin/shield arts, as already mentionned. Replace the first art by a multi line that gives something good with 50%+ resist all. For the kin/shield, you should use your best kin, or your best rof, or your best combo of both :)

One last point: if you have a doubt about the quality of an art, you can use this spreadsheet to calculate the real level equivalent:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =890403956
You can see that the real level of your rof/kin art is 167.7, which is quite good. Is equivalent to a ~160% kin art.

Good luck, and have fun playing around with your arts !

#74108 by Shieldity Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:10 pm
Hmmm Jp I'm afraid i'll have to use some advice from you there x)

I'm not sure about my set so I'll add my setup in another topic to not make a mess.

(Reminder to myself to delete this part and add the set)

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#74114 by Jpsi Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:33 am
Maybe you want some numbers to quantify my answer.

Here is a list of the unit equivalent of your different arts. The higher the value, the better your art. A good art is around 4.

I used this spreadsheet to get the value: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

First art: 71.6% resist all
Art equivalent unit: 1.79 unit

Second art: 82.2% kin damage, 110.5% shield
Art equivalent unit: 2.75 unit

Third art: 42.5% attack speed, 77.3% kin damage, 54.7% inc max power
Art equivalent unit: 3.93 unit (or 3.25 without the max power line, but I find that kind of line quite useful in pvp, you shouldn't neglect it)

Fourth art: 100% shield to hp, 40.6% kin damage, 75.8% shield, 41.9% energy resist
Art equivalent unit: 3.42 unit (or 3.0 if you don't take the energy resist line into consideration)

Fifth art: 317.1% shield, 48.3% health
Art equivalent unit: 3.65 unit (or 3.17 if you neglect the health line, which will give you very little health probably)

Total setup equivalent unit: 15.54 units (or 14.64 if you neglect the energy resist and the health lines)

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#74130 by Silent__Death Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:03 am
i took your advice and made 2 shield setups jpsi
the dampener i using will be bout 60% all when max
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#74135 by Jpsi Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:19 am
Nice. The first setup will be stronger in pvp (although mean art quality is higher in second setup - you have 15.7 in second setup and 14.75 for the first setup). Getting your convert up to 100% will nicely increase your shield. The 50% resist shouldn't be a problem for pvp, but try to dodge debuff weapon (nuke/infested).

Ships with high hp will be good with this setup, and you can use %health and rapid recharge hard shield with this setup. Long term improvement will be to increase your rof (100 should do it), which will increase your dps quite nicely.

But all i all, as as for your hp setup, those are quite balanced setup. You can also try both your shield and your hp setup, to feel the difference. The main drawback of your shield setup will be particle gun, that you will need to dodge (put a pet on it, try to circle the player in order to leave particle gun always shooting behind you - but it's still a pain for sure, player using that can kill you quick).

Good luck, !

(please note btw that most older players have total arts quality above 20 - Swole is at 24 for instance, as are probably most player that are in the list of top arts from Brian/Myo. Bella and myself around 20 (we don't farm enough arts :P). So it's like you are competing against player with one or two more arts in their inventory).

#74138 by Silent__Death Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:24 pm
for some reason after 2 upgrades my dampener got a boost magnificent so.... i got some better stats not sure if this means i can get a higher number maybe 15.5?
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